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• gamedeal user

  Aug 7, 2023

  You'd think after the major success of Payday 2 that Overkill wouldn't do something as ridiculous as have a "random" beta access giveaway with coincidentally most of the recipients being streamers. Well you'd be wrong, Overkill seriously thought the community was dumb enough to not notice this. The fact they still arent fully giving out access and in fact deleted people's request shows they really aren't sorry this happened, they're sorry they got caught.
• gamedeal user

  Feb 17, 2022

  tl:dr

  <*>Failed experiment with new animations. <*>Unique weapon "gimmicks". <*>Return of legendary skins. Didn't have time to make a video for this one. But the script here explains things better and in more deatil. Charts are visible in full review view.

  Wasp-DS SMG

  Magazine	Ammo	Fire Rate	Damage	Accuracy	Stability	Concealment	Threat	Reload Time
  30	240	1333	40	56	36	29	22	1.51 | 2.48

  Smoke SMG. The wasp has two noteworthy features; of all smgs it has the lowest damage, but the highest firerate. Combine this with the high concealment, this makes it very good for crit builds. Stability is a bit of an issue, but controlled bursts are very manageable. The biggest problem with the Wasp is it's custom animations. They look wonderful, but take ages to finish. Putting away the Wasp takes over triple the time other weapons take. Even the Cavity 9mm with its custom animation takes half the time the Wasp takes. And when equipping the Wasp, it's faster to immediately start firing as it skips the entire animation. The real deploy time is still the same as normal weapons, but without using interrupts, going into sights is very delayed. It's fun to use, but the animation delays are just annoying to deal with.

  Argos III Shotgun

  Magazine	Ammo	Fire Rate	Damage	Accuracy	Stability	Concealment	Threat	Reload Time
  7	35	270	110	48	40	24	28	3.4 | 1.0 shell(2)

  A secondary shotgun that fits snugly between the medium (108) and high (186) damage tiers. Good RoF, good ammo pickup, solid all-around choice. The unique feature of this weapon is that every reload loads two shells. This theoretically makes reloads incredibly fast. However, this isn't the case.

  Any tactical reload from 4 shells or less takes longer than a full reload.

  A reload from 1 shell takes ~4.65 seconds, over a second longer than a regular full reload. The main issue is that while both tactical and full reloads have the same initial shell time, full reloads have no reload finish animation. This finish animation is roughly a second long, which only happens with tactical reloads. It would be faster to use sprint interrupts to make tactical reloads go faster. As it stands, this is one of two other guns in the game where tactical reloads are slower than full reloads. Feels good to use, but those reloads hurt.

  Gecko M2 Pistol

  Type	Magazine	Ammo	Fire Rate	Damage	Accuracy	Stability	Concealment	Threat	Reload Time
  Secondary	17	68	480	100	64	44	29	9	1.5-2.15
  Akimbo	34	82	361	100	64	24, 8 with no skills	29	9	3.17-4

  Secondary

  A pistol with solid damage, balanced between the 86 and 126 damage pistols. Breakpoints are very similar to the 126 tier, so if you want better handling for a small trade-off, this is nice to use. This pistol has two features to note. First, this pistol is always suppressed, a feature only seen on the Valkyria Rifle before. This means you can still add compensator extensions for extra stats. The other unique feature is that bullets apply the shotgun push effect. Basically every kill will send an enemy flying much like any shotgun would. Great for moving bodies in stealth. Pretty much the best weapon in this pack.

  Mods

  Misc

  Name	Magazine	Ammo	Fire Rate	Damage	Accuracy	Stability	Concealment	Threat	Reload Time
  Medved R4 Suppressor	-	-	-	-2	+4	+4	-2	-22	-
  Medved R4 Laser Sight	-	-	-	-	+4	-4	-	-	-

  Only usable on pistols and smgs (akimbo included). Note: despite the name, the laser sight is just a laser gadget.

  Argos III Shotgun

  Name	Magazine	Ammo	Fire Rate	Damage	Accuracy	Stability	Concealment	Threat	Reload Time
  ShellSwitch M8 Ammo Cashe	-	+5	-	-	-	-	-2	-	-
  Try-Core Compensator	-	-	-	+4	-	+12	-3	-	-
  Flak Frame Null Stock	-	-	-	-	-	+8	-1	-	-
  Triple Tech Threat	-	-	-	-	+4	+8	-1	-	-

  Can use all shotgun extensions and basic sights & gadgets.

  Triple Tech Threat

  Blocks gadgets and extras. Adds unique predator triple laser.

  Wasp-DS SMG

  Name	Magazine	Ammo	Fire Rate	Damage	Accuracy	Stability	Concealment	Threat	Reload Time
  Celerity X9 Magazine	-	-	-	-	+4	+4	-2	-	-0.7
  Rake Ultra Grip	-	-	-	-	-	+4	-	-	-
  Bounce Slate RX Stock	-	-	-	-	+8	+8	-2	-	-
  Whisper 9 Silencer	-	-	-	+2	+8	+8	-2	-	-

  Can only use tactical pistol light, pocket laser, or R4 sight gadgets. No sights available. Can not use Marmon Compensator.

  Whisper 9 Silencer Kit

  Blocks barrel extensions and gadgets. Adds a suppressor that outclasses the suppressor extensions. Adds laser.

  Gecko M2 Pistol

  Name	Magazine	Ammo	Fire Rate	Damage	Accuracy	Stability	Concealment	Threat	Reload Time
  UpShot Barrel	-	-	-	-	+12	+8	-3	-	-
  Pinnacle Barrel	-	-	-	-	+4	+4	-1	-	-
  Stack S3 Magazine	+4	-	-	-	-	-	-1	-	-

  Can only use IPSC, Facepunch, and Flash Hider extensions. Can use all pistol gadgets.

  Weapon Sets

  Let's be real. Weapon sets are just new better legendary skins since safes are no longer being made.
• gamedeal user

  Feb 17, 2022

  jiu feng looks like he's been smuggling crack
• gamedeal user

  Feb 17, 2022

  Designs are cool, stats are great, but man, these bugs. Animations for SMG and Shotgun feel unfinished and for whatever reason all pattern on the new pistol are tiny and weirdly aligned. And obviously, broken-on-release ammo counter on the new SMG that only works if exclusive set is the last thing you attached to your weapon. Overkill, please, take your time developing new DLCs. No reason to rush them.
• gamedeal user

  Feb 17, 2022

  Overall, this DLC is pretty good. The animations for every single weapon is fresh and clean, especially the shotgun and the FMG. Both are unique to their weapon, with the FMG being long, but still very nice to look at.

  THE WEAPONS

  Gecko M2 Pistol This weapon is the weakest in the group, imo. It seems like an alternative to the judge because it can launch bodies like shotguns can, but it does not have the damage to really do so. An unmarked, DS1D, murky guard takes 4 body shots to kill, but it is offset by the high fire rate and mag size, so pick your poison. Looks like the H3 ODST pistol, always a bonus. Wasp-DS SMG Sadly the ammo counter on the custom attachment does not work, but overall this seems like a very good weapon. I could not get it out of single fire, so if it is just single fire, then it would work great with builds that use snipers as a very good ammo economy secondary. The animations are also true to the weapon and look amazing. Argos 3 Shotgun This is where the DLC shines in my opinion. The shotgun has very low total ammo, but amazing ammo pickup and it reloads 2 shells at a time, allowing for reloads to be done in an instant. It does very good damage, and I think it might be the best secondary shotgun for damage now. It also looks really neat with 3 lazers. Overall, the DLC gets a 6/10 from me. Recommended if you want new guns or to support Overkill for PD3.
• gamedeal user

  Feb 16, 2022

  You can't dual wield the Wasp-DS SMG and it's "ammo counter" from its exclusive set doesn't even function.
• gamedeal user

  Apr 17, 2022

  the smg is slow as a mf to unequip but it looks so stylish every time that i do not care pistols whatever, launches bodies so could be new stealth meta if youre a nerd shotgun's an mp-155 ultima so i dont even care how good it is, its amazing in my books
• gamedeal user

  Feb 16, 2022

  FMG-9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
• gamedeal user

  Feb 17, 2022

  I'm just supporting Overkill for PAYDAY 3. The weapons are nice and fun, and have some cool animations.
• gamedeal user

  Feb 20, 2022

  consume payday 2 dlc